PTSD in the workplace: Stories of Survival, Support & Strength

In this deeply personal episode of Coffee in the Barn, hosts Morgan Hart and Dr. Casey Bradley are joined by Tracy Snider to shed light on the often-hidden realities of PTSD in everyday life—especially within agricultural communities. From domestic abuse survival to the long-term trauma faced by veterans and first responders, this episode dives into raw experiences that highlight the importance of empathy, awareness, and leadership support in the workplace.

Tracy shares her emotional journey through complex PTSD, while Casey speaks openly about supporting her husband, a police officer, after an officer-involved shooting. Together, they emphasize how trauma manifests both personally and professionally—and why creating a trauma-informed environment in ag and rural industries is essential.

Whether you're a manager, colleague, or simply someone who wants to be more aware, this is a must-listen episode on human resilience, healing, and how leadership can show up for people behind the scenes.

🎧 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

✔️ What complex PTSD is and how it manifests in daily life
 ✔️ How trauma affects professionals in agriculture and beyond
 ✔️ The role of leadership in recognizing and supporting mental health
 ✔️ Signs to look for in the workplace that may signal distress
 ✔️ Real stories of strength, resilience, and the power of support

🔹 Guest Spotlight: Tracy Snider

Executive leader and survivor of complex PTSD, Tracy speaks candidly about her experience, recovery, and the leadership lessons she carries forward.

📚 Resources & Links:

🛠️ Support & Mental Health

• National Domestic Violence Hotline – 800-799-7233
• 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – Call or text 988
• Veterans Crisis Line – Text 838255 or call 988, press 1
• BetterHelp Online Therapy
• PTSD Coach App (VA)

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Transcript

0:00:00
(Casey Bradley)
Welcome to Coffee in the Barn, where every cup tells a story. With a rotating lineup of hosts, we invite you to join us as we explore the diverse challenges and triumphs of modern life and the heart of agriculture. From the fields to the classroom, from innovators to everyday visionaries, each episode brings a fresh perspective and a new voice. So, brew yourself a cup of coffee. Settle in and let's uncover the stories that shape our lives, our farms, and

0:00:40
(Casey Bradley)
our communities.

0:00:43
(Morgan Hart)
Hi, guys. Welcome to this week's episode of Coffee in the Barn. This week, we again, it's Morgan and Casey and Tracy here talking about PTSD and abuse. Tracy's gonna be our main guest here speaking a little bit about her situation and PTSD awareness, as well as Casey's gonna be sharing

0:01:05
(Morgan Hart)
how she supported her husband through some PTSD on the job challenges that he experienced.

0:01:14
(Casey Bradley)
So, just to know, there's not a really a good way to introduce this topic. So, it's not a fun topic to talk about. No. With people. We are providing you this content, because we want to inspire you. We're not asking for sympathy or favoritism or anything like that. This episode is to give you context of what's actually really out there that may be behind the scenes that you're unaware of with your colleagues and your friends and how you can

0:01:53
(Casey Bradley)
help them cope and get through this and advocate for people because if you listen to the last episode or if you know me, it's about the people and we want to bring you content not just about agriculture, but how we can support people in agriculture because the people makes it all happen.

0:02:16
(Tracy Snider)
And, and this could be triggering some of the content

0:02:19
(Tracy Snider)
we talked about to be triggering. So just be aware of that today. I'm really honest, I've got my handy Kleenex box right here. But after some seriously intensive counseling, but I mean, seriously, five years of counseling, I feel like I can get through most of this without tears today. But there may be a few moments I tear up. And that's, that's just reality. And that's human emotion. And I promise you, I am not the only woman with complex PTSD or the only co-worker you're going to have with complex PTSD out there.

0:02:58
(Morgan Hart)
I think most of the time, you know, my husband's in the military too, so we've experienced, I personally haven't experienced, but I know him and some of his co-workers, you know, that have been deployed, I'm sure have had some PTSD and different war situations. But, you know, most of the time when we think of PTSD, it's associated with veterans or people working within the military. But it can come from many different experiences.

0:03:28
(Morgan Hart)
And I think, Tracy, we'll start with you. And if you could just kind of share what PTSD looked like for you after leaving an abusive relationship and just a little bit more of the picture there?

0:03:42
(Tracy Snider)
Absolutely. So I didn't even realize complex PTSD, it's shortened to like C-PTSD in the books, was a diagnosis until my counselor told me that's what I was dealing with. And a lot of the symptoms are very similar, whether it's flashbacks, the freeze, flight, fight

0:04:08
(Tracy Snider)
response where you get stuck in your medulla oblongata and can't process very well, they call it reptile brain, the reactions to like having a moment that you of a critical moment, and you you get locked back in it. So what do you call that a freeze or a flashback? The symptoms are very similar. It's just the triggers and the onslaughts are different, right? For me, it's not gunfire that triggers a

0:04:44
(Tracy Snider)
PTSD response. It's not the things of like what someone in the military or a law enforcement officer would experience. Unfortunately for me, my experiences can be things in everyday life. And I've gone through a lot of counseling to get through it, but slamming doors, someone getting really threatened. unfortunately for me, a large man that maybe yells, gets right in the face and gets in my space,

0:05:18
(Tracy Snider)
it can freeze me down and it can be very scary. And it's not something we want to talk about in the workplace a lot, but it's reality. And to survive a domestic violence and abuse situation is one thing. To get out of it is another. To get out of it with your life, I laugh, that's uncomfortable laughter, that's a big deal. And then to be able to take the time, counseling takes time guys, and it takes energy, and it takes a lot out of you when you do

0:05:58
(Tracy Snider)
it right. But it also helps you build yourself back up. So I totally went down a rabbit hole on that because it's such a weird topic for me to bring out. But yeah, PTSD shows up in many different ways. You can see people get real fidgety. You can see people get averse to having conversations or simply just space out.

0:06:22
(Tracy Snider)
And any of those can be symptoms of PTSD in the moment.

0:06:29
(Morgan Hart)
Casey, I know with you, your husband, you know, you've mentioned it before as a police officer, and he experienced some PTSD after an officer involved shooting. How did you, as a support person recognize those signs within that specific situation and then help him navigate those next steps.

0:06:44
(Casey Bradley)
There's another misnomer is PTSD doesn't go away. You learn to live with it. And it's funny we're talking about it, recording this the week of his anniversary of the shooting and he has to remind me so if he seems off this

0:07:16
(Casey Bradley)
week I have to realize it's PTSD and you know if you'll notice police officers when they go out to eat their back is in a corner so they can see the whole room that that's a sign of that complex PTSD the over the career time they don't trust people, alcoholism, gangs and police officers, divorce rates, right? Because of all this trauma they're constantly exposed to. You know, he has nightmares and, you know, he wakes up saying, did I hit you in my nightmare? And I said, no, I would have just hit you back.

0:07:59
(Casey Bradley)
But, no, I just heard you snoring more so but those are the types of things that he deals with lack of sleep He's on edge all the time anger easily, right and I Can't remember how many years been quite a bit now and Tracy said five years of counseling and Jason's done some counseling and he's talked to people but there's some other incidents that have happened

0:08:29
(Casey Bradley)
again and it's really he brought it down he's actually doesn't trust the guys he works with and he talked through that with Cade uh the the mental health person at the PD now and really worked through it so having somebody to talk to but there are like Tracy said lots of things that it. So if you're aware of it, it's kind of really important to know what could trigger them, especially if you're working with police officers or veterans of what that would be. And

0:09:01
(Casey Bradley)
unfortunately, people like Tracy probably won't know about in a workplace. Because that's something women won't talk about. No, it's something that you really don't want to share when you're going through things like that.

0:09:17
(Casey Bradley)
It's terrifying actually the idea that this very out-of-control thing happening in your personal life could bleed over into your professional life.

0:09:30
(Tracy Snider)
And unfortunately for me mine did. My my ex actually came to my workplace and caused a full lockdown. And thank God the people there were empathetic and understood the situation. Right. But I've never been so mortally embarrassed in my entire life as to have what I thought to be controlled within the four walls of our home, bleed over, and drive to the front entrance of our building of my employer and after he cleaned out our bank accounts, right, and then start threatening our receptionist on how I had to come to the front entrance and

0:10:21
(Morgan Hart)
How scary?

0:10:25
(Tracy Snider)
I can almost say it without emotion now because of how much I went through with it. And I

0:10:34
(Tracy Snider)
forget sometimes that it will affect people as deeply as it does, because of some of that.

0:10:58
(Morgan Hart)
Do you think that you're, I know you've mentioned that you have certain triggers and specific situations, but have you found yourself, it takes a little bit longer for you to trust men specifically or like do you it just takes longer? Or is there certain things that you know, you've just kind of how do you how do you trust somebody again after you've been so deeply vulnerable or hurt?

0:11:33
(Tracy Snider)
I literally just had this conversation yesterday morning with our senior pastor's wife, where we were going through some of my testimony. And I am married to a fantastic Christian man who literally anybody can trust with anything now, thank God. I'm not a psychiatrist. I don't know the numbers anymore. But it's not everybody gets to live through this guys. To come out alive is a blessing. blessing. To come out alive and have the means to take care of

0:12:52
(Tracy Snider)
myself and my son. That's huge in and of its own. And then to go get the counseling and to take the time to heal. It was hard. It was stupid hard, like at a level I can't even explain.

0:13:07
(Tracy Snider)
Because when you go through this kind of stuff, there's days where you're questioning why you're alive. You don't really want to die, but why are you going through this? I'm finally now on the other side of it and can find joy in the suffering and can find the ability to truly love and trust as a whole human again, but it's I'll tell you for me

0:13:31
(Tracy Snider)
it was only through faith in God that I made it through this. You kind of highlighted on it a little bit, but you had a son during this challenge as well. So you know, you weren't just fighting for yourself. You were fighting for him too. And the strength of that must have taken this.

0:13:53
(Tracy Snider)
easier to fight for my son than it was for myself.

0:13:55
(Tracy Snider)
If that makes any sense as a mother, and we're all mothers on right here, right. But, and I think other parents would recognize and feel that too, that when you're fighting for

0:14:03
(Tracy Snider)
your child, and their safety and their well being, you will almost always put it ahead of your own. And this is where I'll tear up, right? Like, one of the biggest things I didn't want for my son was for him to be exposed to that. And to live that as a cycle. And to potentially take that forward in his own life. So I've worked with him a lot. He has PTSD as well. That's his diagnosis, not mine, right? Like I have my own diagnosis. But yeah, we've worked with a lot of counseling and it, when I say it takes time, it takes time and resources. And when I was going through

0:14:58
(Tracy Snider)
this, I don't know if the National Domestic Violence Hotline even existed then, but there's simply just not a lot of resources for women in these types of situations because they're considered civil issues, the ability to get these prosecuted criminally, it almost doesn't happen until it ends in

0:15:23
(Tracy Snider)
God.

0:15:25
(Morgan Hart)
Did you have a support system outside of your ex or family or people that you could turn to in this time of vulnerability?

0:15:39
(Tracy Snider)
Yes, thank God. I had some of my closest friends that I had actually, I had made these friends in college, and they lived very close. And I had families in church I was close with. And I had people I could rely on. And they helped me with, gosh, moving my animals. So yeah, there were just a lot of things

0:16:10
(Tracy Snider)
that had to happen because it's not just physical abuse to you. They'll I mean, my dog was killed. Yeah, a true abuse situation, they will do anything they can to hurt you, whether it's hurt your child, hurt your animals. It's, again,

0:16:36
(Tracy Snider)
next to this would be triggering and it may be too hard of content for people. And it's okay if it is not everyone, people should not live through what I've lived through.

0:16:44
(Casey Bradley)
I think silence is always a good pause. We're reflecting on what you said. And, you know, here's the thing. My husband brings a lot of this home, right? And it's hard because I want to help as many people as I can. But I

0:17:05
(Casey Bradley)
think there's some things we really want to talk about that of in a workplace, what are possibly some signs of PTSD and Tracy I'm asking you that because You're probably aware of it a lot more than I am I

0:17:22
(Casey Bradley)
Could talk about the men

0:17:24
(Casey Bradley)
PTSD symptoms that may mirror narcissism or you know angry or Masculinity that we talked about it We're being a jerk or we call it an a-hole response, but like in women, what are some of your signs or some missed signs that people may pick up on?

0:17:50
(Tracy Snider)
Yeah, I think anytime you see a sudden change in behavior, and

0:17:56
(Tracy Snider)
I've heard people say this before about, they were such a high performer, they were amazing. And then all of a sudden something flipped and it was like they couldn't even perform anymore or suddenly they had a significant amount of absenteeism or wow, they're leaving right at five o'clock. They used to stay till six or 6.30. Well, there may be reasons behind that,

0:18:34
(Tracy Snider)
but they are not comfortable discussing with you. And a sudden change in performance when someone's always been a high performer is a really, really good indication that something is not right at home. If someone who has always been able to come in early or stay late suddenly is boxed in to eight to five, maybe because they no longer have another caretaker they

0:19:04
(Tracy Snider)
can rely on. They probably couldn't rely on them to begin with, but they may not have another caretaker for their kids. And now they are boxed into you drop off at this time and you pick up by this time or you start getting charged by the 30-second or one-minute increment by that before-care and after-care program. to any type of disruptive behavior or hard conversations, suddenly tearing up, where like you're in a meeting

0:19:33
(Tracy Snider)
and it's just a normal meeting

0:19:34
(Tracy Snider)
and you see this person suddenly tear up. Maybe they've got a text message from an attorney or from a doctor or from their ex. You have no idea and they have to leave a meeting. So I would say anything that's kind of like behavior that seems out of place for the individual may be an indication that something more is going on.

0:20:27
(Morgan Hart)
Because we're all moms, and I know maybe you can speak on this as well, Tracy, but what about your kids? Like you, whether your kids go to daycare or to school, or you know, violence doesn't just

0:20:42
(Tracy Snider)
happen in the home or in the workplace. Like how, is there signs, you know, that your child might be experiencing some sort of violence or something outside of your watch?

0:21:00
(Tracy Snider)
Yeah, absolutely.

0:21:02
(Tracy Snider)
And the biggest challenge with abuse with children, especially when it involves a significant other, is they probably love that person and have a trust for that person. And children psychologically and again, I'm not a psychiatrist or psychologist. I've only learned this through the amount of counseling and research I've done. They identify their own psyche with their parents. Right. You know, unfortunately, things like ADD and ADHD, those are real diagnoses. But PTSD can also exhibit as that. Depression can exhibit as that. or has witnessed violence in the home, it comes out in very different ways in children. And an inclination to hating themselves or an inclination to self-harm

0:22:04
(Tracy Snider)
is very, I want to say what was the term, very frequent amongst children that have witnessed domestic violence or abuse. This is challenging. You can be dealing with your own thing and then you have a child that is dealing with suicidal ideation at the same time all from the same root cause. Deep breath everybody. It's a lot.

0:22:42
(Casey Bradley)
for being so open.

0:22:46
(Casey Bradley)
I can see it in Morgan of how much it impacted her and I don't think you can get this in an HR training by any means. But I wanna talk about leadership. We've given you symptom signs and I'll use my husband's leadership example

0:23:00
(Casey Bradley)
of totally the 180 degree shift that I've seen in police officers or police departments today. So it's been over 10 years. 13 I think he said something like that. It may be longer. It's been quite a while. He won a Medal of Valor. Rogers in February. I think it's he's gonna be mad that I don't know the exact date it's either the 20th or 21st of February. So week after Valentine's Day we always have to we're on edge. He was right there when the call came out of an

0:23:46
(Casey Bradley)
armed robbery and he was first officer on scene by several minutes. The guys came out with the guns, they had a hostage, they ran off, the one turned to shoot at him and so he shot and the gun didn't go off. They were high, drunk, teenagers making bad decisions. The whole PTSD is not about how he had to shoot the kid. The kid didn't die, he was lucky, the gun was in the way. It just shattered his arm. Basically, he his trauma is

0:24:31
(Casey Bradley)
Why was it he shot? Why is he still here? So something that you talked about? That's an example of that. So we're all very social. We don't get out in groups, large venues, very controlled environments that we we do. But in leadership, he had after he won the Medal of Valor that chief retired. And then the next chief, he was still struggling. I didn't know what to do. So I went to the chief,

0:25:09
(Casey Bradley)
there was a lot of changes going on the new chief, he said he had an open door policy. And i'm like my husband is stressed out and angry about everything and this and Basically, I was told That he should seek a softer gentler profession if he couldn't handle it and

0:25:27
(Casey Bradley)
As a wife being told that like there's no resources for my husband to get through this. Obviously he handled it the first month okay but it was after everybody stopped checking in on him that it came out and he did end up leaving for a while and because I finished my PhD and we ended up moving so he did leave the police But it didn't stop. Come back to Springdale 13 some years later now or more, they have a mental health person there.

0:26:10
(Casey Bradley)
They have a crisis management team of fellow officers that check in on you after major events. They're training people in it. And I'm talking about leadership because I think that's so important even an ad is to say, and this PTSD doesn't have to come from violence, it can come from a car accident, I still have anxiety or PST driving in snow. You know, going off the road in the blizzard. set this up in leadership, what do companies need to do to help people not through just trauma but mental health? We have a mental health crisis.

0:26:52
(Casey Bradley)
You're the new CEO, Tracy. You're going through this. What does Animistic and other companies need to do to help their employees with this type of issue? 

0:27:09
(Tracy Snider)
I do think the important thing is to reach people with empathy, and when you do see a sudden change, help them where you can. Doesn't mean that the end results don't need to be there for the company. They do, of course, but people have to come first or your company is not going to exist.

0:27:16
(Tracy Snider)
And then when possible, have an EAP. We're looking right now into further benefits for our people and part of that is looking at the potential for health care that can have counseling sessions and such with it, then understanding that the programs that are supposed to exist at the county level, the state level, whatever level, probably don't do enough, and that having the ability to take FMLA leave is is essential, but then also supporting your people through it. It's not someone's fault that they're the victim. Right? And we live in a world of victims and victors, right? But when someone's a victim, it's not necessarily their fault. And helping them through it with the most compassion and empathy as we

0:28:26
(Tracy Snider)
possibly can is incredibly important.

0:28:29
(Morgan Hart)
So kind of as both of you have, you know, been through your own experiences of PTSD, either personally or with a loved one, what's something that you know now that you wish you would have known in the beginning?

0:28:51
(Tracy Snider)
I'll say something that Casey mentioned is when you first go through stuff, people are there, like that first two weeks or a month, when you first go through stuff. And unfortunately, you're still trying to process in those days, and don't even know what to think. And it's the people who sit by your side, the weeks, the months, the years after that, who get to see the progression as you heal. And understand

0:29:27
(Tracy Snider)
you're going to have some relapses in it. Those are the people who are your thick and thin, who are going to stand by And check in on people after the 30-day mark. If they cross your mind, there's probably a reason why they cross your mind. Send them a text telling you miss them, check in on them.

0:30:10
(Tracy Snider)
If they don't respond, then that's on them. But if you've got somebody that is important to you, make sure they know that they're important to you. 

0:30:30
(Tracy Snider)
I think the biggest thing that I wish I would have known was the resources out there to help him.

0:30:31
(Casey Bradley)
We didn't have a strong church at the time and then when we moved and after he wasn't a cop, the one pastor probably wasn't healthy for him but he did help him through some stuff. But I didn't have anybody to help him. I couldn't help him. I don't have the skill set. I don't understand. I'm not trained to help him. I'm living it. I had my own trauma from the event of my good friend shows up. She's a, she was a dispatcher. She went to the police department. She knew about it. They didn't call me. She showed up and then they called me and told me. And then they called me and told me.

0:31:19
(Casey Bradley)
So I had my own trauma from this, right? And I just wish I wouldn't have waited so long to get him help. But I think as leadership, when I look at this, we all have our skeletons, we all have our problems, and that's why I call and check in on people and I need it to do it more often to the people out there. I care about Jim keeps saying I don't know why Casey and I clicked but she just

0:31:47
(Casey Bradley)
keeps checking in on me. Well, I mean you're going through a lot right now and I think I check in on people like that because I know even though it's not a violent trauma, it's a trauma. I've been there, Jim.

0:32:05
(Casey Bradley)
So that's why I check in on it. You know, that's why I insist that I'm not CEO anymore, but my CEO, Tracy, you know, we have one-on-one meetings weekly with our staff. I give a lot of grace, a lot of mercy. And I think I, I even make it a habit, even though they might not meet my direct

0:32:25
(Casey Bradley)
report now, have a conversation with them at least once a week, if not every other week, just to be like, what's going on in your life? You know, Morrow just bought a new house. He's getting ready to, to propose and get married. Right. It's like, he's got a lot of transitions and life changes going on and.

0:32:52
(Casey Bradley)
And that can be difficult for a 24 year old. To go through. Doesn't always have to be trauma and it's just like. Just ask people to care about people to be people. And I see businesses becoming this. Gigantic corporations.

0:33:11
(Casey Bradley)
Or so big that we need more sales, we don't hire more people. So we stretch our employees too thin.

0:33:18
(Casey Bradley)
I see that everywhere.

0:33:20
(Casey Bradley)
Show mercy and grace, why haven't got a reply back on the email. I wanna send you business, but looking back as a business owner, do they have the bandwidth to even have my business or the people to even reply back to me?

0:33:33
(Casey Bradley)
I see a lot of that going on and so I really, there's caution leaders out there and we set it up for our people to fail. Are we supportive enough? Do we know the resources? And so we could keep going on and on about this topic,

0:33:53
(Casey Bradley)
but I'm not gonna go through all the resources that I've found. Chat TPT by the way is amazing. To give me even all the numbers, the email is good. It's going to be in our show notes. And we're going to do a special post on it.

0:34:12
(Casey Bradley)
So these are things you probably should have saved on your HR site or somewhere really close to be able to pull out and provide to your employees when needed. And they've got different crisis hotlines PTSD organizations. Therapy groups like I thought it was cute when I did it through chat GPT they put better help on there I always hear those commercials right the online therapy find one that works for you. Who would ever thought that we could talk to a therapist on a computer screen.

0:34:47
(Casey Bradley)
So, I. I, and I would say, you know, the biggest support you can do is what Morgan's doing right now if you see her on video is snuggling that cute little baby or a dog or a cat. I don't disagree. Four-legged therapists are wonderful. So, look at this one. And I know, but I think that's also a good point is we're in animal agriculture, do you have animal friendly offices? Because our four legged friends can really do it diffuse PTSD quite a bit. There's a

0:35:24
(Casey Bradley)
reason why the schools have therapy dogs now and things and so maybe you need to reconsider your policies of pets coming to the office would be an easy one to do.

0:35:45
(Morgan Hart)
Or if you know, I'm part of a therapy group program because both my dogs are certified dogs. So if you know, there's a lot of national organizations around the United States and

0:35:54
(Morgan Hart)
worldwide that if you need that support in any way, there's things available.

0:36:01
(Casey Bradley)
Well, amazing. So, Nora is awake and alive. So, Morgan would have been finishing this out, but I think I did that. Any last minute tips that you know is struggling with a visa situation or PTSD that you want to share, Tracy, before we go with the audience?

0:36:21
(Tracy Snider)
Don't be so ashamed of your situation that you don't tell anyone. I say this a lot, but ask for help early and don't let yourself become accustomed to taking less than you deserve and understand that it can happen to anyone. You can be the strongest voice in the room, you can be incredibly intelligent. There's in fact whole TED Talks about women that are leaders that have been very abused at home, just because of the

0:36:58
(Tracy Snider)
dynamic there. And yeah, ask for help. Get out. Get safe. If they're willing to change, that's really scary to say that out loud, but I'm so thankful to be alive today and it's because people were willing to reach out and help me.

0:37:24
(Morgan Hart)
This has just kind of been jogging in my mind since we've kind of started talking about this topic, but how did you know when you're like, I mean, did you try to get out multiple times before you eventually got out? Or how did you, I guess, how do people

0:37:50
(Morgan Hart)
recognize when that time is, I guess?

0:37:54
(Tracy Snider)
The challenge is, in an abusive situation, you say, I'm going to leave when he does this. And then he does that. And then you say, oh, it wasn't that bad. I'm going to leave when he does this. And then he does that. And then it's not that bad. And I'm going to leave when he does this. And it's not that bad. For me, the straw that broke the camel's back was nothing against me. It was when my child finally told me everything that was going on. And then, yeah, that was that was really good.

0:38:27
(Morgan Hart)
And then, yeah, that was really it. I'm sorry you had to go through that as well as your son. And I'm glad that you're on the other side of that now.

0:38:38
(Tracy Snider)
Me too, thank you. And there is joy in suffering, but you usually find it on the other side of the suffering. There's a reason why I've had to go through everything I've had to go through in my life. It wasn't the greatest to go through it, but because I have, I have more empathy, I have more grace and more mercy, and have

0:39:01
(Tracy Snider)
learned to judge less. And that's, you know, I can love better because of it. And it's, which is a weird way to say it, but that's real for me.

0:39:09
(Casey Bradley)
Amazing. Well, like I said, everybody, you want to talk about leadership and what you can do, reach out to Tracy. She's open to talking and she can guide you through those with other leaders listening. You're in an abusive relationship and you don't know where to go.

0:39:26
(Casey Bradley)
Please reach out to one of us. We're gonna share them online. This is a real problem, not just women. Men can be abused too.

0:39:41
(Casey Bradley)
Like I said, a car accident can, I even feel like I had PTSD having my NICU baby. There's a lot that can trigger people and change. We just wanted to bring this to the forefront because we always say agriculture is family and we need to take care of our family.

0:40:05
(Casey Bradley)
And so this is a really tough podcast. If you made it to the end, thank you. Share it with somebody who needs to listen to it. Every person, every leader, every co-worker should be listening to this. In my mind, and I understand if you can't get through it because it is raw and it's really tough and I promise you we're going to be real and

0:40:32
(Casey Bradley)
tough and bring you valuable resources in perceptions of life because we can say it's about feeding the world but you got to have people to feed. Thank you and join us next time on coffee in the barn.

0:40:47
(Morgan Hart)
Thanks. Thanks.

0:40:47
(Casey Bradley)
time on Coffee in the Barn. Thanks.